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Bowl lathe #3

Postby chainsawkid » Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:44 pm

Good evening :D


This is going to be a small photo report on the building of my next lathe. After visiting MERL in Reading a couple of times researching George Lailey's tools, I have decided to have a go at making a lathe like his. I have plenty of used fence posts, big oak and a woodmizer at my disposal so the post and rails have been sorted. This lathe won't be dug into the ground like George's as I may have to move in the near future.

The two lathes I have already work fine. These include the half log lathe I built at Doncaster which got me through the first winter of my self-apprenticeship and I've used it occasionally since. The second lathe I built is similar to the James and John Davies model which looks like a solid bed with morticed rectangular and triangulated legs with two adjustable poppits (in the background of photo). This lathe was a solid improvement and is a great portable lathe, simple to set up and relies on gravity alone for stability.

So from what I can see from the Lailey lathe, the bed is let into and bolted to one main post which also forms the left poppit and with two low posts off to the right of the lathe. There are then two stabilising uprights set at 90 degrees at both ends, one serves as a tool rest support and the other a storage area for unused tools.

Over the next couple of days I will be marking up the timbers using timber framing techniques, so the bed ends up flat, level and equal on both sides. I will then drill and coach bolt the frame together which will allow easy dismantling. Then the poppits and metalwork.

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All the best for now

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Re: Bowl lathe #3

Postby trollwumple » Tue May 10, 2011 1:06 pm

Hi,
How are you getting on with the lathe, any pics of the new one

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Re: Bowl lathe #3

Postby chainsawkid » Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:28 pm

Sorry for a lack of news recently, but a load of stuff has been going on, but I have been out in the outhouse over the weekend putting it together. So here are some pics of the main frame bolted together and ready for the right hand poppit to be made and fitted.

Left hand tool rest side
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right hand side
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Not much room for anything else!
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Tomorrow I will be sorting the right hand poppit so it drops into the bed snuggly. Then onto the metalwork salvaged from some old gate hinges for the centres. Pics when made.

All the best

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Re: Bowl lathe #3

Postby chainsawkid » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:29 pm

And here is the poppit in the bed. Roughed out with a chainsaw then finished with some framing chisels and a plane at the end. It's very big, so I plan to taper it off to make it look a little more elegant. It also looks a bit short but it's 8" square but 10" tall but with the offset center it will be 12" tall. The right hand center will be offset so I can turn goblets from over the end, does that make sense? Anyway...pic....

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To do list

Drill holes in poppit for wedges and make wedge.
Make diagonal tool rest.
Make hardware.
Drill holes for centers.
Make treadle and treadle stay.
Chamfer some of the edges to make lathe pleasant to use.

All the best

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Re: Bowl lathe #3

Postby lordcaradoc » Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:37 am

James,

How is your lathe build going? I am about ready to build my first and am very interested in how yours comes out.

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Re: Bowl lathe #3

Postby chainsawkid » Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:20 pm

Well it's all up and running very nicely. I thought the last one felt solid but this one is even more so.
I didn't want the pin for the tool rest to get in the way so I decided to fit the rest under the right hand metal center as shown in the pic. It is tight fitting so it is very stable and actually works quite well! Anyway here are some pics.


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The only thing I worry about at the mo is whether the tool rest is going to vibrate or not, only time will tell?

Hope this helps?

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Re: Bowl lathe #3

Postby Stanleythecat » Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:32 am

James

Did you make your centres yourself? I'm just in the process of making another lathe too and that's the next job. The last one I made was threaded bar but I'm making one with the same style centres as yours.

Any tips would be an big help.

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Re: Bowl lathe #3

Postby chainsawkid » Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:14 pm

Hi Leo

I used old farm gate type hinges, about an inch square. Cut the upright off then used a thin cutting disc to cut the corners off the square end before getting them turned to make the points. If they are slightly off center it doesn't realy matter as it makes them slightly adjustable when winding them in. The bent one was turned straight then bent in the forge in two heats with a lump hammer and a swage block :shock:

Hope that helps

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Re: Bowl lathe #3

Postby Stanleythecat » Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:32 pm

Thanks James

We have a few of those lying about, always looked at them wondering if they could be used...

How long is the tang that you have driven in?

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Re: Bowl lathe #3

Postby chainsawkid » Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:20 pm

The "tang" is the threaded part of the old hinge, so you just drill a hole a couple of mm smaller and wind it into the poppit, so the left one is about 8" and the right one is about 4"

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Re: Bowl lathe #3

Postby robin wood » Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:36 pm

certainly looks good and solid as a bowl lathe should be. I am still using bowl lathe no1 in the workshop and it's coming up to 20 years old though lathe no2 which lived outside died last year.
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Re: Bowl lathe #3

Postby chainsawkid » Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:36 pm

Did you bury it? Perhaps with a load of cores :lol: something for the Archaeologists to ponder over in years to come?
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Re: Bowl lathe #3

Postby robin wood » Sat Sep 24, 2011 2:16 am

chainsawkid wrote:Did you bury it? Perhaps with a load of cores :lol: something for the Archaeologists to ponder over in years to come?


I sold it to Ridley Scott for his Robin Hood film set, http://greenwood-carving.blogspot.com/2 ... idley.html never made it to the final cut though.
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Re: Bowl lathe #3

Postby Ade Lloyd » Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:35 am

Hi James

I'm a newbie to the forum although have been a member of the Association for a while! I'm about to build my first bowl lathe using your outstanding posts as a guide - is there any chance you could share some of the dimensions of the stock you used in construction? Any lengths, heights, widths etc. would be most appreciated. I see you used some fence posts and big oak for the majority of the construction - was it green oak or had it already been seasoned? What's the overall length and height of the finished lathe etc.

Hope you are able to help.

Many thanks

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Re: Bowl lathe #3

Postby chainsawkid » Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:01 pm

Hiya Adrian

Very sorry for not getting back earlier but home life has been getting in the way a little recently :roll:

Anyway the measurements of the lathe are suited to me.... but, for info the main upright is 6" square. The cross rails are 3"x4" and are let into the main upright leaving a 3" space for the poppet tenons. All other uprights are 4"X5" (fence post material). The centres are nipple height (when standing on a 4" plinth) and are set above the cross rails by about 9". The length of the lathe depended on the out-house I've put it in, so you can just make it as long as you need but probably needs to be no shorter than 4 feet. All the components are of scavenged oak and are semi-seasoned, I have only needed to tighten the bolts once since building.

I hope that helps, but please carry on asking Q's

ATB

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