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"My first bowl"

Postby gavin » Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:37 am

When you first make a bowl, please post pictures of it here. Never mind the quality, just share it. That will encourage others to have a go. If they could also view your particular lathe set-up they'd get ideas that could help them.
I think I have mine still in the shed, so I'd better take some pix and post it. I am not proud of it, but I was jolly pleased to have completed it.
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Re: "My first bowl"

Postby Daniel » Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:36 am

O.K. I will start...
First, I'm new in the forum and new in turning. my Name is Daniel and I' from Germany.
I found this forum and I'm very impressed by the wooden goods the people can do with just their hands and some good tools.
So I have a try. Make a very simple lathe (only the poppets clamped on top of my work bench) and try turning.
Here are the result:
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There is still a lot to learn...and I hope the next one is better

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Re: "My first bowl"

Postby Darrell » Fri May 01, 2009 2:35 am

Here's my first bowl. Had only the one hook tool, which was not an optimal shape, and about 10 times the size it should have been, but it worked.

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Re: "My first bowl"

Postby matthew » Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:54 pm

]i have been trying to learn to turn green wood bowls lately. they are turned on a cheap power lathe (i hope that doesn't offend anyone) but I'm am trying to finish without sandpaper.i hope everyone will take a look and give me some feedback.
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Re: "My first bowl"

Postby Robin Fawcett » Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:15 am

The bowls look good Matthew. Is that a Windsor table they're sitting on?
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Re: "My first bowl"

Postby Nicola Wood » Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:06 am

Nice idea Gavin :D Have you got any of your early bowls around you could put up? I'll have a root around for some old ones of Rob's. I'm not sure what we have at home, but I bet he's got some up in his workshop which I'll get him to look out when he gets back from Spain.
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Re: "My first bowl"

Postby paul atkin » Sun Oct 18, 2009 12:26 pm

oky doky, the very fist bowl shape thingy i turned on the pole lathe, probably about ten years ago when i knew nothing, turned from soggy willow roundwood, didnt leave any waste on the bottom so i had to plug the hole, and the only way i could get a half decent finish on it was to use sandpaper :oops: it takes pride of place next to the lathes and often reminds me of what has been a very long learning curb.

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Re: "My first bowl"

Postby matthew » Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:33 pm

Yes robin that is a windsor style table I made a couple of years back to use in my home.
It was made out of popular and oak. Here is a different picture showing the table (not a great picture).
Back to the bowls I was wandering if anyone else turned green bowls on a powered lathe without the use of sandpaper.
If so do you use regular bowl gouges or hook tools? Or is there something else that works better?
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Re: "My first bowl"

Postby paul atkin » Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:38 pm

yep i make them all the time, and i use normal bowl gouges, and never sand them
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Re: "My first bowl"

Postby goldsmithexile » Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:58 pm

This is my first attempt at turning a bowl from green wood with hook tools on a pole lathe. It is a work in progress as I had to stop working on it sooner than anticipated this afternoon. I will post finished pictures (even if it blows apart... :lol:)

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I dont know if chestnut was a bad choice for a first attempt, at first I was getting murderous dig ins on the end grains. But as I started to relax a bit and use lighter touch and skewed cuts, that seemed to diminish a little. The Svante djarv hooks are awesome, the small one eats like a beaver and the big one does nice smoothing cuts. I used a simple push fit mandrel into a 1 1/4 inch hole in the chestnut blank (didnt have any big enough steel pipe to make a mandrel ferrule).
Hats off to Robin and the rest of you guys who make bowl turning look easy-it isnt! But like every thing practise makes perfect :D
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Re: "My first bowl"

Postby Andy Coates » Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:46 pm

It looks to be a good start. I wonder if you will suffer from the bowl having "moved" when you get back to it. I know that greenwood bowls on the other lathes are best completed in one hit as movement, even over night, can be significant. I can't see why a part-turned pole-lathed bowl would be different.

The hook tools look great quality, could I ask where you got them from and cost?
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Re: "My first bowl"

Postby Robin Fawcett » Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:44 pm

goldsmithexile wrote:I dont know if chestnut was a bad choice for a first attempt


A brave choice...I bet you got a load of purple gunk build-up on the tool edges - best to clean that stuff off after use.

Andy was talking about the part finished bowl moving and best to turn in one go. I agree, but when you spindle turn Chestnut it barely goes oval when it dries so perhaps the same for bowls ?

Svante Djarv hooks look good - I wouldn't put steel ferrules on the mandrel until you get used to undercutting the core. Those nice sharp edges might not survive long!
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Re: "My first bowl"

Postby goldsmithexile » Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:59 pm

Thanks for looking Andy and Robin,
I would of preferred to have completed the thing in one session so to speak but family circumstances intervened unfortunately.
If it moves too much by tommorrow-well maybe it will blow apart and get dried out for fire wood!! What wood would you recomend as a starting point ?
The hooks are swedish hand forged and finished by Svante djarv. I got them from Maurice Pyle for about £80 the pair. Money well spent I think. Incidentally I obtained (for £6 from Tony Murland) what I thought was a spoon carving knife, but actualy found it worked well for doing smoothing cuts when held in an extremme upright position....
Undercutting the core....I was just getting into that when I had to stop. The mandrel hole was making me a tad nervous, like if I went too close-bang end of job!! I reckon ideally thats where you need a hook with a bit of curved reach? Then again theres always the possibility of hitting mandrel spikes ??
I was talking to an old joiner once and he used a similar square holed cup chuck arrangement to turn stair spindles real quick, they were machined to the same dimension and just push fit in.
Any way its been fascinating to finally have a go. The lathe has held up well so far. Its been pegged together from fence posts joists scraps of decking worktop trampoline rope etc, very heath robinson LOL :D
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Re: "My first bowl"

Postby paul atkin » Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:16 pm

looks good for your first attempt , if you cant finish in one go as reccomended wrap a plastic bag around it
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Re: "My first bowl"

Postby gavin » Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:29 am

goldsmithexile wrote:
Undercutting the core....I was just getting into that when I had to stop. The mandrel hole was making me a tad nervous, like if I went too close-bang end of job!! I reckon ideally thats where you need a hook with a bit of curved reach? Then again theres always the possibility of hitting mandrel spikes ??

Yes, you absolutely do need a hook with a bowl-shaped curve in the shank to be able to undercut mandrel cores. When I forge each "George Lailey Master Set" of 4 bowl-turning hooks that I sell, I put a curve in 2 of the 4 hooks to get you under-cutting the mandrel core.

If you forge your own hooks, do experiment with different profiles and curves.

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Then again theres always the possibility of hitting mandrel spikes ??

If your spikes are less than 40 mm proud of the mandrel-end and the mandrel is circa 50 mm diameter, it is rarely a problem for your hook to meet a mandrel spike or tang.
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