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Re: Basic carving decoration / decorative carving

Postby DavidFisher » Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:17 pm

For carving tight circles and arcs when decorating a spoon handle, try moving (rotating) the spoon as much or more than you move the knife. The two are like dance partners.
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Inexpensive Chip-Carving tools (Sheffield) :)

Postby ToneWood » Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:16 pm

I just came across 3 inexpensive chip carving tools on ebay - £4 (/$6.40) each - they appear to be made in Sheffield, and it looks like they ("Proops Brothers Ltd") probably give a combined shipping discount :):

This one appears not unlike my engraving knife or one of the traditional stab knives:
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/sheffield-mde ... 51a0d16f11
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/sheffield-mad ... 19d49cf1bb
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/sheffield-mad ... 19d49cf1ba

Also saw this 1-off at twice the price. The brand, 2-cherries (German), seem to be well regarded for chisels on US woodworking forums:
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Small-Chip-Ca ... 3ccaca1106

Or as a set of 3, all for £10.50(/$16) + £1.70 shipping - remarkable - they sell British-made scrapers for a keen price too:
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/sheffield-mde ... 51a1adf65d
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Re: Basic carving decoration / decorative carving

Postby ToneWood » Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:30 pm

Looking at the cheap chip carving knives above, the bevel on the stab knife looks way too deep (like my engraving knife*):
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If you look at the more expensive American knives earlier in the the thread they have v. shallow bevels - presumably so the you get can easily reach the full thickness of the blade when you stab it into the wood, to create a nice thick triangle or triangle-terminated line:
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*Don't get me wrong, I'm loving the <b>Ben Orford engraving knife</b> - that little handle is great, it really helps - I currently use it for most of my decorative carving. But it's not a stab knife - I use a different knife, usually the Ben Orford "mini-sloyd" pick knife, for my stab cut decoration.
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Ben Orford engraving knife (rare - made to order)
Ben Orford pick knife ("mini-sloyd")
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Re: Basic carving decoration / decorative carving

Postby jrccaim » Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:30 am

If you are chip carving it is all stabbing. Stab (preferably at 62 deg) to an outline. Turn the piece, not the knife. Hold that angle! Stab again. Chip pops out. :) Hah. Of course it doesen't. It is hung by the merest fiber. Identify offending fiber. Cut it (another stabbing cut, only deeper). As a starter I recommend cutting equilateral triangles of say 6mm sides. Lay them out. Three cuts. Remember. do not turn the knife. Turn the workpiece. Very frustrating at first. Eventualy you get the hang of it. It is always that you didn't stab deep enough, in my experience, and leave a tiny pyramid at the bottom of the triangular hole. I made myself a 62 deg guide block to get the 62 deg right. Practice helps, as always. Don't think it so much the knife as practice.
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Re: Basic carving decoration / decorative carving

Postby ToneWood » Mon Jul 01, 2013 7:27 pm

Interesting page on decorative carving by a chap called Jake Powning: http://powning.com/jake/tutorial/carving-tutorial/
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He uses a flat edged chisel and a skew chisel. I wondered what skew chisels are used for (in non-turning applications), I guess this is one way to use them - not unlike my Ben Orford engraving knife, except beveled on just one side, rather than 2 - which I suppose might make it easier to obtain & maintain a narrow-angled cutting edge (like single-bevel Japanese kitchen knives).

Some examples of his work: http://powning.com/jake/swords/

Amazing work - casts his own bronze fittings using lost wax process too: http://powning.com/jake/swords/dwine-broadseax/

I think he might be located in Middle Earth!
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Re: Basic carving decoration / decorative carving

Postby bulldawg_65 » Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:32 pm

Wow, Jake Powning is a master of the art!
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