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Making a Shovel

Postby Joe DesLauriers » Thu Aug 22, 2013 2:28 am

Here is an old film entitled The Last Shovel Maker old timer in upstate New York carving a shovel starting with an two bladed ax ... http://www.folkstreams.net/film,299
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Re: Making a Shovel

Postby Brian Williamson » Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:07 am

Wonderful Joe. I'm putting my axes away in shame now.

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Re: Making a Shovel

Postby AlexanderTheLate » Thu Aug 22, 2013 2:17 pm

http://crafting.squidoo.com/scoop-making

This is a bit more about the man and his work.
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Re: Making a Shovel

Postby 81stBRAT » Thu Aug 22, 2013 4:41 pm

Making a barrel is worth watching

http://www.folkstreams.net/film,224 Alex Stuart
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Re: Making a Shovel

Postby AlexanderTheLate » Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:35 pm

Ben's Mill was my favorite
http://www.folkstreams.net/film,187

The Pirogue Maker, Basket maker and Sled maker are all relevant to this forum, I think.
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Re: Making a Shovel

Postby Brian Williamson » Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:57 pm

Does make me wince a bit, watching him axe straight towards his foot. He's amazingly accurate, but even with 74 years of practice it's going to be possible to make mistakes. No sign of a limp, though!

He mentions 'Masram' (?) as a favourite timber Anyone know that by a name I might recognise?

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Re: Making a Shovel

Postby AlexanderTheLate » Thu Aug 22, 2013 8:33 pm

Bass-Wood, I think that was (Lime, to you I think).
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Re: Making a Shovel

Postby Brian Williamson » Thu Aug 22, 2013 8:55 pm

Being a limey, that sounds about right!

It should certainly carve well.

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Re: Making a Shovel

Postby ToneWood » Fri Aug 23, 2013 9:20 pm

Brian Williamson wrote:Wonderful Joe. I'm putting my axes away in shame now.

:D Ditto. Awesome. Reminds me, I was going to carve a paddle - a nice little project Ray Mears featured on his TV program. I now need to add wooden shovel to my "to do"-list, although I expect it will take me much longer and the result will likely be less satisfactory. He effectively carved a large wooden bowl and a fairly involved tool handle to create that shovel - combining two of my favorite greenwood activities :D

I can no longer complain that my bowl blanks are too big/too heavy (I notice he sensibly split his before moving them) or that my axe is too big/too heavy. I need to speed up too - but I guess getting the techniques right first should be the priority. The old timer* puts it all into perspective. And who needs spoke shaves when you have a knife!

BTW what would you use a wooden shovel for? He mentioned shoveling gunpowder - no sparks I suppose - but I don't have much need for that, thankfully. I guess you could use one to shovel grain on a farm - they use the big metal grain shovels as sleds in Wisconsin. I guess they'd make a good snow shovel.

*Started at 14, doing it for 78 years = 92?! Surely not. Surely he was "only" 78? Broadcast in 1974...almost 40 years ago now, hardly seems possible.
UPDATE: The venerable Mr. Harvey Ward passed away in 1982 at the age of 92 - as shown on his grave stone, here: http://crafting.squidoo.com/scoop-making - making him 84 when film was broadcast.
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Re: Making a Shovel

Postby ToneWood » Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:08 pm

81stBRAT wrote:Making a barrel is worth watching
http://www.folkstreams.net/film,224 Alex Stuart

Equally awesome! There is something re-assuring about a pipe smoker :) Interesting roof on his barn - plenty of ventilation.

Just got a beer from the fridge (Bishop's Finger :)). I visited a little pub on the canal near Devizes a few weeks ago, the Bridge Inn at Horton: very nice and the spacious beer garden had loads of wooden butts & barrels, as planters, water butts and furniture.
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The pub is owned by the local brewer, Wadworths, which has England's last master cooper (barrel maker), Alastair Simms - so plenty of old and new wooden barrels. Beer sold, gravity fed from wooden kegs - it's been several decades since I last experienced that pleasure. They now insert modern refrigeration through the top bung of the wooden keg so it's kept at the ideal temperature (6X needs careful handling), the beer tasted great.
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Re: Making a Shovel

Postby ToneWood » Sat Aug 24, 2013 9:50 pm

Another night, another cold beer (Spitfire tonight):
AlexanderTheLate wrote:Ben's Mill was my favorite http://www.folkstreams.net/film,187...

Ben's amazing & what a useful guy and facility to have in a community. Hard, skilled, physical work & low prices - and a paragon of green living: water powered workshop, re-using old fittings, recycling old silo hoops, sweat equity, horse sleds. The older timers were intuitively greener than us - I suppose they had to be.

That huge water trough/butt was something special. I suppose that's how they make those big wooden hot tubs:
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Re: Making a Shovel

Postby 81stBRAT » Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:14 pm

I Think this is Bens Mill still there in use cant tell from image
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Re: Making a Shovel

Postby AlexanderTheLate » Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:50 pm

Yeah, it's still there- I don't know if thats is the mill or not. Mr. Thresher himself died a few years back (he was hit by a car on his way to the mill). The mill fell into disrepair, but it has been bought up and is being restored.
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Re: Making a Shovel

Postby alexyerks » Sun Dec 22, 2013 6:00 am

I actually was inspired by this film and decided to give it a go. Black cherry was a bit of a chore though.
I live in upstate New York as well so I fell in love with that film instantly.


I'm still pretty new here, is there anything wrong with posting up 40+ photos of the project? I still have to thin it out now that it'd dried a bit. Just intime for a snowstorm!
I also have a writeup but I didn't want to bore anyone with one of my rambles



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Here is a couple highlights:

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Lunch break

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Little spoon big spoon

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Re: Making a Shovel

Postby Bob_Fleet » Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:23 pm

At the TVFF this year we got the 'waste' section off a bit of Scots Pine they planked on the woodmizer.
Sy made a paddle for the coracle with it.
A couple of pics - not in the water but it makes a great bat too, maybe even a malting shovel at a push.
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