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Re: Billhook makers

Postby Billman » Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:42 am

Nash were from Shropshire/Worcestershire. They had scythe works at Belbroughton and edge tool works at Stourbridge.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belbroughton; http://www.belbroughton.com/belbroughtonindustry.pdf and http://www.belbroughton.com/ Nash joined up with Brades and Tyzack to form a joint firm (not sure who bought who out) - later absorbed into Spear and Jackson.
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Re: Billhook makers

Postby ToneWood » Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:43 pm

The other Billhook is a Nash. I couldn't make it out before, even by "brass-rubbing" over the logo. But looking at the detailed digital image you can make it out fairly easily. I will try uploading the images to your website though, for you to take a look at Bill. (My draw knife is a Tyzack.)
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Re: Billhook makers

Postby Billman » Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:14 pm

If brass rubbing doesn't work try a smoking candle flame and take offf the soot with some sellotape (scotch tape in the USA???)... I have also found taking a digital image as a close up,and then altering the brightness and contrast, even reversing the colours can help (I have hundreds of old French billhooks to try and identify - at least in the UK I know most of the names to look for)... Definitely a NASH!! Top two are also by Nash (although stamped Fussells Improved)... The Nash is unusual - the square corner to the inner edge of the beak is similar to the Hampshire Hurdle hook - but subtlely different... A good hook for riving or cleaving....
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Re: Billhook makers

Postby ToneWood » Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:51 pm

Spoke with my brother & mother. Although our Grandmother was not from Netheravon (she grew up in the village where I live now), her family was. We used to visit an old relative there as children. It's a small village, given we already know she has a line of blacksmiths in her family tree - it seems very likely to have been a relative of hers, and therefore ours. Might look into the Buckland story, I doubt if there is much intrigue to it - the Sheppards I knew were lovely, gentle, country folk. There were several Sheppards in our village but the men had no direct male off-spring, so the name died out here, I guess the genes live on though).
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Re: Billhook makers

Postby ToneWood » Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:19 am

BTW I forgot to ask, do you any Sheppard billhooks or tools?
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Re: Billhook makers

Postby Billman » Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:01 pm

I have two billhooks stamped Buckland, Netheravon and a single hoe stamped Sheppard with the same Netheravon stamp as used on one of the billhooks. Often makers had two stamps: one for name and one for village/town - when Sheppard took over the Buckland business they used a different (new??) name stamp, but kept the old village stamp. The Buckland hoes were well regarded throughout Wiltshire and the West of England...

Hand-forging was once a thriving trade in Wiltshire. In the mid-18th century, Salisbury (along with Cirencester) was an important regional centre. In 1754, a Swedish traveller had observed there the manufacturing of scythes from Swedish iron and Newcastle steel. Of the Wiltshire makers still active in 1850, the most ancient was the firm of Down at Mere on the Somerset borders, dating from the later 17th century, when it consisted of a forge, water wheel and three grindstones, plus a large stock of iron and steel and part-finished tools. Manufacture had ceased at Salisbury by 1855, and at Mere by 1890, leaving John Sheppard of Fingledean, general smith and maker of ‘Buckland’s hoes’, as the sole practitioner. In Oxfordshire, no trace then remained of Oxford’s once thriving metal industries, or at Woodstock, of the five ‘steel-makers’ ( either whitesmiths or edge-tool makers )listed in the Universal British Directory of 1798. source: www2.lse.ac.uk/economicHistory/Conferences/.../PAPER-Collins.pdf
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Re: Billhook makers

Postby MrThings » Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:19 pm

I picked this up last week.

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I know it’s a Yorkshire pattern, Number 5 size, but am I right in thinking it’s a Skinner & Johnson?
Any idea on age? Has the handle been cut down?
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Re: Billhook makers

Postby Billman » Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:29 pm

Yes, it's a Skinner & Johnson from Ranskill in Notts - they closed down many years go, so it's fairly old (pre 1960's??)

The handle has been cut down - for a bill it should be 14 to 18" long (30 to 36" for a Yorkshire slasher) - but if it's OK for you to use, why change it???
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Re: Billhook makers

Postby sandp » Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:38 pm

Can anyone tell me what the star of David symbol means. I have a billhook with it on and a galvansied bath. Thanks
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Re: Billhook makers

Postby Davie Crockett » Wed Mar 28, 2018 5:08 pm

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Your billhook is probably by William Edwards.
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