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Re: clog-maker's axe

Postby witt » Sat May 19, 2012 8:19 am

I don't know if they went but sent a PM to Troll and another to Bulldawg. clogmaker's axe and doloire à droite available.
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Re: clog-maker's axe

Postby bulldawg_65 » Sat May 19, 2012 2:19 pm

Thanks for the message Witt,

On the axe for sale though, I thought you had a Finnish axe for 25 pounds or was it Euros? I'm interested in a picture if you have one. Sorry for the confusion. :wink:
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Re: clog-maker's axe

Postby trollwumple » Sat May 19, 2012 5:35 pm

Hi Witt,

Sorry, didn't get the pm regarding the doloire à droite, any chance of posting some info and photos "if you have them" here.

I have had the same problem when sending PM's, sometimes it works and sometimes it dosn't.

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Re: clog-maker's axe

Postby trollwumple » Sat May 19, 2012 5:56 pm

Witt

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I know a man called Boucard, and others, famous in the world of antic tools. I will see what I can do for you and bulldawg-65. just don't be in a hurry.


Would that be Daniel Boucard, the author of "Les Haches, Dictionnaire des Outils, Les Outils de Tradition, Les Outils de Metiers, Les Outils Taillants and a few others which I havn't mentioned, if so, lucky you, he is a god in the world of old tools, for those interested here is a link to some of his books http://www.amazon.fr/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_1 ... Caps%2C392 .

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Re: clog-maker's axe

Postby bulldawg_65 » Sat May 19, 2012 8:41 pm

Those look like some very interesting books. I'm gonna have to put a couple of them on my "to read" list!
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Re: clog-maker's axe

Postby trollwumple » Sat May 19, 2012 9:25 pm

It's my birthday in July, so have already added some of them to my wish list on amazon and made sure the kids and the better half have seen the list, hint, hint.
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Re: clog-maker's axe

Postby witt » Sun May 20, 2012 6:53 pm

Well, sorry guys, I just came back home.

Yes, Troll, I found a doloire à droite which match the picture a little, It's in germany I think you can get it for 60 euros. I'll Pm you.
Daniel Boucard is ready to help us with our search, I have to give him more details./. And we will have more help from Isabelle Maleval specialist in old woodwork tools, dealer since a long time.
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Re: clog-maker's axe

Postby witt » Sun May 20, 2012 7:57 pm

I suggest you forget the kids birthday (their own) and offer yourself a couple of axes instead.
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Re: clog-maker's axe

Postby trollwumple » Sun May 20, 2012 10:18 pm

Excellent, thanks for your help, I look forward to hearing from you, I have heard of Isabelle Maleval but have never managed to get up to here shop/stand in Paris, no doubt Billman knows her.

I got your PM tonight and took a look at the German one, it looks like it may have a little damage so I think I will wait and see what you can come up with, "I am a patient man".

Here is a link http://www.charpentealancienne.com/liens1.html to a "mec", who is using doloires everyday, some good examples of the sort of thing that I have in mind, interstingly he has a link to Nicola Woods Blog on his site.

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Re: clog-maker's axe

Postby bulldawg_65 » Sun May 20, 2012 10:30 pm

Hey, Are either of you on Facebook? If you are, I suggest you join https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=291287394294135&set=o.187262914648478&type=1#!/groups/GreenWoodWork/. It's a group for spoon carvers and green wood workers. Many of the folks in this forum are part of it. I think you'd be a good fit and great contributers.

I've got all the Boucard books on my Amazon wish list, three at a high priority, Le Dictionaire, Les Haches, and the Metiers book. I figure they ought to help me with my vocabulary and my searches for old french tools! :)
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Re: clog-maker's axe

Postby trollwumple » Sun May 20, 2012 11:05 pm

Bulldawg wrote
Hey, Are either of you on Facebook? If you are, I suggest you join https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... nWoodWork/. It's a group for spoon carvers and green wood workers. Many of the folks in this forum are part of it. I think you'd be a good fit and great contributers.


Just signed up and Philippe Steele approved my request, so I will see you there.

The Bocard books look excellent and I have added , Les Haches, Les outils taillants, Dictionnaire des outils, Dictionnaire illustre et anthologie des metiers, des moyen age a 1914, and if Robin and Nicola's new book comes out shortly I will get that as well, "although I would rather buy straight from the author", that should keep me going right through the summer and into winter, I am not sure which I love more, tools or books, hmm.

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Re: clog-maker's axe

Postby witt » Mon May 21, 2012 12:15 pm

Troll :

In fact it appears that the picture of the doloire shown in the Wiki document is a clogmakers axe which belonged to Daniel and which is sold now.
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Re: clog-maker's axe

Postby witt » Mon May 21, 2012 5:56 pm

My mistake. I was too much in a hurry this morning when I read his answer.
It's not his ex-belonging, in fact he just said that it's a typical clogmakers axe which originated in the north of France. He says those axe irons are typically thin and the axe is of a light weight. He has sold all his clogmakers axes but two (which I have been sent the pics of).

Otherwise he has real bûcherons (lumberjacks')-charpentiers (carpenters') axes, something like tens of them, so it's hard for him to send pictures without a idea of your precise needs.

His prices can be rather high because he sells for what he bought them for and sometimes he didn't hesitate for the price . From time to time the price are very "friendly".

It's always a hazardous to buy such a thing as a broad axe without testing it. With him it will be the same as it was with me, you can test it first.

So, you see, you have to be more specific on what you want, une doloire à bûcher (ébaucher le sabot à partir de la bûche de manière très rapide), une doloire de charpentier to shape some special pieces of wood, or une doloire to hew the beams smooth. Remember that there were many of those last doloires which were a little concave.
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Re: clog-maker's axe

Postby trollwumple » Wed May 23, 2012 11:05 pm

Hi Witt,

I will PM you with some links and pictures concerning the doloire.

This arrived today yippeee, happy days Image

a lot heavier than I thought it would be and needs sharpening but I am pleased with it, the patina on the wood and the actual axe head is great.

here are a couple of photos with a GB axe for comparison.

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Re: clog-maker's axe

Postby witt » Thu May 24, 2012 7:01 pm

Hi Will,

Glad to hear you like it. Hope it serves well for another fifty years.

You're welcome to send me any information for where I can find pics of the type of axes you want, I'll be very happy to help you.
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