Turning Cups and Goblets

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Re: Turning Cups and Goblets

Postby Brigstock Bodger57 » Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:32 pm

I have been turning goblets for nearly 20 years now and have to admit that they are about all I do on the pole lathe now. My first ideas came from Domestic Utensils Of Wood by Evan Thomas. This is in B&W and most of the things are also in the Treen Book. Once I had seen pictures of what they should look like I started to make ones that looked good and did sell. I kept my first good one picture below.
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My white wine glass
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The outside is turned using normal spindle turning tools and the inside using a variaty of hook tools which I made from old car springs. I discovered early on that they sometimes leaked or split, usualy on the really nice ones. Rather than burn these I stitched up the split and sealed the inside with bees wax. These became known as Bondage Goblets.
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Bondage Goblet
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The type of wood is important, the closer grained the better, Sycamore and Beech work well. I have used Cherry a lot, but this often needs the bees wax treatment. The one below I made in a friends wood when I was teaching the owner how to make one. It is the one I now use all the time.
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Red Wine Goblet
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You can see the bees wax on this one has come away in places, but as it leaked through the end grain it still doesn't leak. As I now live in The Hebrides and my other favourite tipple is Malt Whisky I made myself a copy of a traditional drinking vessel from the Treen book. Having had a lot of whisky poured in and out of it all you have to do is smell it to know what it's used for.
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Whiskey Cup
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I reforged all my hook tools this summer, when on holiday in our friends wood, as they were showing their age and a few had been sharpened so often that there wasn't enough metal left to work with. I did do a goblet making demo at an AGM many years ago, maybe I might offer one for next year as there are alot of new members who might be interested to see how it's done.
If any one is interested I could post pictures of the hook tools I use, as they are a lot smaller than bowl making ones and do have curves in them to make it easier to get inside. I have also made an undercutting tool to help get the core out.
Time to go and use my whisky cup.
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Re: Turning Cups and Goblets

Postby Stanleythecat » Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:11 pm

Thanks for showing us those.

I'd really love to see your tools if you are happy to share. I'd love to have a go at this.

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Re: Turning Cups and Goblets

Postby robin wood » Thu Nov 24, 2011 2:03 am

Nice to see you posting on here Olvin, enjoy the whisky.
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Re: Turning Cups and Goblets

Postby Brigstock Bodger57 » Fri Nov 25, 2011 2:38 pm

The hook tools I use are shown below, hope they show up OK as they are difficult things to photograph.
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As you can see they are rough and ready but do the job. I have spoken to people who have managed to make tools like these with a good quality gas torch. These were originaly made on a forge made using brikes, clay, a few palets,a simple blower ( I have seen one for blowing up air beds used or if lazy then a heater blower from a car connected to a battery charger) and charcaol that we had made.
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Re: Turning Cups and Goblets

Postby Baggy » Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:03 pm

Hi Olvin

The goblets and whiskey cup look great, it would be good to see you make one of those one day.

Has the island dried out a bit yet?
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Re: Turning Cups and Goblets

Postby Brigstock Bodger57 » Sat Nov 26, 2011 2:29 pm

No it is still raining with upto 60 mph winds. Not an outdoors day. We now have lathe and shaving horse in a polly tunnel, to make the most of what little light there is but with winds like we have now it's not nice to be in there.
I will have to make one in the wood next summer when you are there and let you have a go.
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Re: Turning Cups and Goblets

Postby Baggy » Sun Nov 27, 2011 12:28 pm

Hiya

Brigstock Bodger57 wrote:No it is still raining with upto 60 mph winds. Not an outdoors day. We now have lathe and shaving horse in a polly tunnel, to make the most of what little light there is but with winds like we have now it's not nice to be in there.
Brigstock Bodger57 wrote:We must have the back end of the wind here, I went to the wood today with the dog and the trees were thrashing about a lot.


Brigstock Bodger57 wrote:I will have to make one in the wood next summer when you are there and let you have a go.

That would be great :-)

I must build a lathe soon, I have used up all my spare timber beefing up the cheap shed that I brought :-(

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